http://platosbeard.org/archives/23 whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must make random noises Thu, 17 May 2012 00:55:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 http://platosbeard.org/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-3222 Plato’s Beard » Blog Archive » Will the Real Internet Left please stand up? Mon, 22 Jan 2007 22:08:34 +0000 http://platosbeard.org/wordpress/?p=23#comment-3222 [...] What is Max’s beef against the young Turks? I am guessing he is unhappy with their apparent attitude that they have the whole leftist enterprise covered (from activism to theory). Instead old Max finds that they are ill-read if at all (and extends that point to suggest that they have little coherent theoretical understanding and analysis of their positions and the things they, or rather the Left, should work against or for), and they are not very left at that (as attested by the unbridled enthusiasm for Democrats — which seems to exceed that of a Democratic convention speaker, Al Sharpton, who memorably quipped: we want to see how far this donkey can take us — and election politics and activism). Further evidence is not hard to come by, ranging from Kos’ attitude towards marches and the activists involved (”boring”, “obsolete”) to Duncan Black on Chomsky (Google it. I refuse to link to random blather!). The “netroots” wants the old Left (the 60s left in particular?) out of their way in a hurry, but as Max outlines, what is the alternative they offer to the many facets of old style organising and activism? [...] [...] What is Max’s beef against the young Turks? I am guessing he is unhappy with their apparent attitude that they have the whole leftist enterprise covered (from activism to theory). Instead old Max finds that they are ill-read if at all (and extends that point to suggest that they have little coherent theoretical understanding and analysis of their positions and the things they, or rather the Left, should work against or for), and they are not very left at that (as attested by the unbridled enthusiasm for Democrats — which seems to exceed that of a Democratic convention speaker, Al Sharpton, who memorably quipped: we want to see how far this donkey can take us — and election politics and activism). Further evidence is not hard to come by, ranging from Kos’ attitude towards marches and the activists involved (”boring”, “obsolete”) to Duncan Black on Chomsky (Google it. I refuse to link to random blather!). The “netroots” wants the old Left (the 60s left in particular?) out of their way in a hurry, but as Max outlines, what is the alternative they offer to the many facets of old style organising and activism? [...]

]]> http://platosbeard.org/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-20 Plato’s Beard » Speaking of Kos (again)… Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:34:54 +0000 http://platosbeard.org/wordpress/?p=23#comment-20 [...] Recently, I posted about Max being dropped by dKos and a bit earlier about Kos  opinion on peace marches. At that time, I had no problem with Kos in general but found some aspects of his approach (and his rhetoric) disturbing. More on his attitude has emerged (follow the Bitch|Lab blog link quoted below to read direct Kos comments on the dearth of minorities/women in the blogosphere, and from there on about affirmative action, etc) that casts further doubt on Kos’ credibility as a true progressive. [...] [...] Recently, I posted about Max being dropped by dKos and a bit earlier about Kos  opinion on peace marches. At that time, I had no problem with Kos in general but found some aspects of his approach (and his rhetoric) disturbing. More on his attitude has emerged (follow the Bitch|Lab blog link quoted below to read direct Kos comments on the dearth of minorities/women in the blogosphere, and from there on about affirmative action, etc) that casts further doubt on Kos’ credibility as a true progressive. [...]

]]> http://platosbeard.org/archives/23/comment-page-1#comment-19 Plato’s Beard » More on Kos and Solidarity Mon, 06 Feb 2006 17:23:24 +0000 http://platosbeard.org/wordpress/?p=23#comment-19 [...] Yet another example of what I was point to in my post on the Kos take on peace marches. There are genuine reasons to split with Democrats, liberals, etc — Leiberman is a good example. But this sort of stuff seems to be muscle-flexing more than reasonable differences. [...] [...] Yet another example of what I was point to in my post on the Kos take on peace marches. There are genuine reasons to split with Democrats, liberals, etc — Leiberman is a good example. But this sort of stuff seems to be muscle-flexing more than reasonable differences. [...]

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